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KPK's avatar

This is a beautiful essay and it says that I have been thinking, only it articulates it much better than I could have done.

My only quibble is that where the essay says Christian, it would have been preferable to say Judeo-Christian since the referenced concepts were first in the Hebrew Bible.

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Coel Hellier's avatar

A valiant effort at defending the view that science and religion are compatible, though I confess to not agreeing with any of it (no problem, a diversity of opinion is good!).

Just for starters, I've never understood the claim that science cannot deal with "why?" questions. Why did the elephant head towards the water hole? Because it was thirsty. I don't see anything unscientific or non-scientific about that.

And just for seconds, on the five axioms that "can't be proved" but have to "be assumed" and "taken on faith": Things like: "entire physical universe obeys certain laws and these laws do not change with time."

But the extent to which the universe show regularities and "obeys laws", and whether they change with time, these are all observables. Indeed, that's how we arrive at "laws", by observing the universe and seeing how it behaves. If something seems (as far as we can tell) to hold in all times and places then we call it a "law". Further, we can test these ideas by using them to (for example) predict solar eclipses and see if the predictions come true.

None of this is just assumed and taken on faith, it's based on observations and regularly tested. It's a product of science, not an untestable assumption. Science can test any and all of its component ideas simply by asking "so how would things be if that wasn't true?" and then seeing which fits the observations better.

And, thirdly, yes, there is a reason to suppose that our thoughts about the world have some resemblance to the "truth", and that is that we need only suppose that, in evolving our brains, natural selection will have tended to favour true ideas over untrue ones. Which is indeed true.

The entire article supposes a "foundational" view of science, that it must rest on un-questionnable assumptions. This is a faulty view, the truer picture being the "Neurath's raft" or "Quinean web" view, where science is continually testing all parts of its world view.

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