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Mitch's avatar

Well done, unfortunately none of the people who need to read this will be able to get through it.

LB - The Happy Underachiever's avatar

I literally laughed out loud at this comment. Thankfully I wasn't in mid-sip.

Codebra's avatar

Group IQ differences are one of the most replicated results in the social sciences. IQ has nothing to do with morality or dignity. There’s approximately the same gap between my race (generic cracker) and Ashkenazi Jews as there is been blacks and crackers. Jews are smart. Big deal. That doesn’t stop me from living a good life, though it does mean I’m far less likely to become a doctor than is a Jew (without DEI or other distortions). Group differences say nothing about individuals — there are many, many blacks far smarter than I am.

LB - The Happy Underachiever's avatar

Great piece. I've been saying the same NBA analogy vs Asians at certain schools/subjects for years. Ultimately, why should we care what the team or company make up is? Don't we all just want winning teams and winning companies?

Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology is similar to Stuyvesant and Bronx Science. It's always ranked in the Top 5 in the country, and is free if you're a VA resident. You just need to test to get in and no surprise - it was majority East Asians, Indians and then Whites attending. Well, the DEI police did not like this, and "evened" out the racial demographics, and their ranking dropped, and the # of National Merit Semifinalists from that school dwindled under the new "holistic" admissions policy.

https://www.k12dive.com/news/education-department-investigation-enrollment-admissions-Thomas-Jefferson/749024/

Alexander Simonelis's avatar

"The best approach is to emulate college and professional sports, which nowadays generally ignore background and color to focus on merit and expect their fans to do the same. Which will be more effective: preaching the excellence of diversity or showcasing the diversity of excellence?"

Amen!

Robert A. Jones's avatar

One might almost conclude that the purpose of DEI is to provide jobs for individuals, who for some reason yet unclear, are fundamentally incompetent.

Thomas J. Snodgrass's avatar

It is not unclear. We just cannot state it.

Robert A. Jones's avatar

It’s a struggle to disagree with you.

Spartacus's avatar

Reading this, I kept remembering the editor at Earth Systems Dynamics, James Dyke, who rejected my paper that included criticism of some papers by Tim Garrett. Leaving aside that he assigned Tim as 1st reviewer and utterly ignored reviewer 2, he said he "wasn't sure" that dividing by zero in an obvious mathematical fallacy, was an error. This level of math incompetence i have seen before, but never in a physics journal. The senior editors, Axel Kleidon and Gabriele Messori, both agreed with him. And Tim Garrett didn't argue that divide by zero.

The time I ran into equal incompetence was at a BMC journal, Theoretical Biology and Medical Modeling. There, I received a review that mocked the concept of using mathematics in Biology as "numerology". When the EIC and entire board would not respond, the Springer ombudsman shut down the journal.

However, Copernicus has no ombudsman and no protest procedure whatsoever. It's I'm too busy to bother, and silence from Copernicus itself.

The two articles submitted to the BMC journal above. We're published last year in a Chinese journal. Chinese reviewers have good math skills.

FWIW - I think I see serious signs of breakdown in the academy. I would characterize it as the stupidification of Western journals. I could discuss bizarre stupidity participating as an author at PNAS, Royal Society also. I think we are in trouble.

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Aug 25, 2025
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Kent Osband's avatar

Lesser merit in STEM. Aiming for ethnic quotas that would be rightly denounced as both counterproductive and immoral if applied to the NFL or NBA.

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Aug 25, 2025
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Coel Hellier's avatar

Let’s not concern ourselves with evidence or truth, let’s just go with feelings.

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Aug 29, 2025
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Coel Hellier's avatar

Damned out of your own mouth: you are judging based on what you want to be true, not on what the evidence suggests is true.

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Aug 24, 2025
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Marcus T Anthony's avatar

Agh, kill the Joos, that old meme favourite beloved of the morally virtuous amongst us.

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Aug 25, 2025
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Kent Osband's avatar

The subtext that inspired this essay is a lawsuit filed on behalf of top Asian STEM students rejected by major universities in favor of lesser candidates favored divisively by DEI. You have not yet provided any counter to the evidence I adduced other than invective against Arabs and Jews.

Thomas J. Snodgrass's avatar

The fact that you are illiterate and a violent dangerous savage speaks volumes. You are not welcome here. Go away.

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Aug 25, 2025
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Kent Osband's avatar

I am curious how you consider any of those phrases relevant to the essay topic: the impact of DEI on Asians in STEM.

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Aug 24, 2025
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Aug 24, 2025
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Marcus T Anthony's avatar

DEI is built on peace and justice. And exterminating the jooz. Interesting juxtaposition there. But alas, not a juxtaposition that is surprising to find in your circles these days.

Thomas J. Snodgrass's avatar

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are dangerous and illiterate. Go away.

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Thomas J. Snodgrass's avatar

I warned you. You are not welcome here with your hate-filled nonsense. This is a serious place. It is not a place for trolls like yourself.

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Aug 24, 2025
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Kent Osband's avatar

The overwhelming majority of Semites are Arabs, who outnumber Jews by over 20 to 1. So to the extent you are presenting a logical argument, I take it you view Arabs as highly warlike and genocidal compared to Asians. Even Pol Pot? Such comparison falls well outside the scope of this essay. I can say that in PISA math assessments, most tested Arab countries rank near the bottom but a few rich states score much higher.

Clever Pseudonym's avatar

goddamn Jews! There really should be some final solution to them.

Thomas J. Snodgrass's avatar

I think if you look at the matter carefully, you will find this is inaccurate.

Humans are humans.

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Aug 24, 2025
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Marcus T Anthony's avatar

Why don’t you use your real name?

Thomas J. Snodgrass's avatar

I would counter your arguments but this is not the place for them. You are too ignorant and uneducated to have a discussion with. This is not the place for you. Go away.

I am getting ready to block you.

Clever Pseudonym's avatar

You don't conside "Asians good. White man not good." a quality argument!? LOL

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Thomas J. Snodgrass's avatar

Have you ever been told you appear to be mentally ill?